Good luck with this one.  I started posting a week or so before Obama announced his candidacy, does that make me an Obama astroturfer?  I take your point but I don't support your conclusions, especially calling out individual posters.

Gosh, we're entering another la la land.

Can I crankle?

paranoid too.

Who would pay for their advocacy?  Sure seems to me they hurt Senator Clinton more than they help her...

So sorry, I don't buy it.

Warm welcome onboard to join us!!! Clinton collected $8 million online last quarter, maybe these online donors were all 'funded' by Murdoch?

By the way, 'the water hen', we are still vastly outguned here, so please recommend any valuable pro-Hillary diaries. I'm sick and tired of seeing the rec list full of craps!

Welcome to this site.  Stick around, you'll like it.  

This is the type of diary that brings the site down.  I would recommend deleting it, as it really reflects badly on you, minvis.   Otherwise, let me just state that it is VERY bad form to call out individual posters.  You have zero proof of anything, just shameless innuendo that makes absolutely no sense to any thinking person.   As I said, you are best off deleting this stuff.

I think I started posting around then but I guess no one thinks Hillary would be crazy enough to pay me- though she might pay me to stop- ha!

I came here because after the 2nd debate, they mentioned mydd on television and put up a poll from here- I remember the woman on CNN said Hillary came in third which was good for her because she wasn't well-liked on the internet and mydd.com was easy to remember so I checked it out and never left- much to many people's chagrin.  The format here is very user-friendly, it has a very good format.

This is typical of the mentality that says no one can legitimately support Hillary Clinton without an ulterior motive...

A mentality that simply cannot wrap its brain around the notion that not everyone moves in lockstep...even in the netroots...

Also I must say it is very bad form to accuse posters by name of something for which you have ZERO proof...

Interesting diary you have here. I never thought I would be included in such a list considering I have sided with both Obama and Edwards from time to time and hit on Clinton when I saw fit.

Accusing me of sidetracking the debate is unfounded and I stand by that. You have no proof of such actions.

The people that are sidetracking the debate are people like you. You bring nothing to the conversation with this diary, or do nothing to better the site. After sporadic posting in the last three years, you have the nerve to come here and criticize several Clinton supporters for having a voice.

... On a Democratic blog.

Oh my.

Come now.  Clinton isn't all that well represented in my opinion.  Obama, Edwards, Kucinich, Richardson all get as much or move love on the net.

I am a Clinton supporter --- I'll gladly take a slice of that 23 million.

Warning, I don't come cheap.  

Actually I'll work for golf balls.

I came here because I am highly energized about the Democratic prospects in November 2008 and about the Clinton campaign. I shopped around at the various Democratic oriented blogs for a few weeks and decided that MyDD offered the best available forum for discussing the Presidential race.

I am 53 years old.  Actually, the Clintons have been paying me since I first became politically active in 1968.  (They knew back then that they would be running for president, and the Internets would be invented, and they would need astroturfers like me to do their dirty work.)  Anyway, they groomed me for decades until five years ago or so when I first joined Daily Kos.  They kept paying and grooming me until this year when I started posting pro-Hillary diaries and comments.

In fact, they pay me extra, because I don't only post, but I am the secret organizer of the underground Hillary cabal, which brings together all these secretly paid astroturfers via Hillaryis44 and Chelseais46 (bet you didn't know about that one!)

It feels so good to confess!!!

I gots 2 questions.

Is this a union gig and do we get dental?

Hillary Clinton supporters meet at her web site blog and at their Yahoo site. Whenever someone posts something about Hillary the call goes out and suddenly they descend on a site to recommend the diary and to comment positively. Their whole purpose is to stay on message. The leader of the gang is Alegre. Whenever something is posted that doesn't cast their girl in a good light they also send out the 911 to descend upon the offending website and on message attack the person posting the diary. And when they aren't hanging at the Hillary site or at Yahoo they do their thing at Hillaryis44 where they spew their nonsense about all the other candidates. It's a place where they feel at ease to be off message and say the things they would never say here. But make no mistake, the Hillaryis44 site is directly connected to the Hillary Clinton campaign even if her supporters will deny it. Areyouready is one of the biggest contributors of the site. Under a few different names of course.

Seriously - I thought calling folks out like this by name was off-limits on this site.  If it's not it should be.

So you think that Hillary supporters are here only because they get paid is it?  No way people could actually like what Hillary's done and hopes to do for our nation?

If this isn't the HEIGHT of despration I don't know what is.  Cop yourself on kid - this only makes whoever you're backing look desperate and sad.

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Gee, we're certainly hitting all the high notes today, folks.  And I thought DKos was a noisy home-room.  Sheesh.  Give the moderators a break.

Right after I made the declaration about the Hillary supporters the site was suddenly besieged by them. So apparently I stated the truth.

They apparently think they have this internet thing figured out. They are entitled to think that. It seems an apt mentality for them.

but I'm wondering why a professed non-Clinton supporter would care how Clinton was spending her money. Let's just think about this for a minute. Wouldn't you as a Clinton hater be glad that she was wasting her money on internet outreach here at mydd rather than using it to expand grassroots support around the country? As someone who does not support Edwards or Obama, I would hope that they would spend their money on astroturfing the internet. You know why? B/c that's wasting valuable resources (especially in Edwards' case) that won't get anyone to vote for them in the primaries/caucuses. I think the internet is nice for crafting a media image or collecting financial donations. Getting people to the polls? Not so much, at least not here at MyDD....

A lot more evidence is needed to make such an accusations my friend. Can't we stop trying to purge one another?

The bottom line is that the blogosphere is no less of a spin zone than the MSM, regardless of which side of the fence you're on. I've learned to just read and extract objective arguments from any baseless theorizing, hoping that most others are doing the same. Of all the candidates, I think that Edwards and Ron Paul supporters have been ahead of the game for months. The rest have just followed their lead.

This diary is disgusting.

Shaun, I don't think your join date alone is reason to suspect the participation motives of a new blogger. It's when a person joins during an election cycle and then puts out diaries and comments only related to that topic alone, it makes one skeptical if they are truly interested in the party and the issues we need to address as a whole.

I have noticed a good portion of  Pro Hillary diarists have not been part of MYDD until this election cycle. And a lot of them (MEANING NOT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU) have diaries only concerned with Hillary or her opponents 95% of the time. And even their comments are on Hillary related cheerleading a majority of the time. Very little time on other topics, if anything.

Even Francis Holland who has inexplicably shown up on Huffington Post used to spend most of his time praising Hillary while taking to task white blogosphere for not being interested enough in pro African American issues(which I actually agree with). He too spent little time bring up African American related electoral issues or issues with other DEmocrats. Every diary was about either his martyrdom or Hillary the Queen Bee. It's too bad he did not show us any of that side of his personality that did good work on the Jena 6 case since he has been banned here.

Dem Dem, Holden,  or Whatever literary name he chooses to adopt next pretty much spends his time shilling for Hillary, railing against imaginary Naderites, or defending Clinton cronies. He doesnt very little time discussing non Hillary topics. And he too has joined in only after the Hillary candidacy and I expect him to disappear after Hillary is President because he seems to be not interested in contributing to non Hillary related issues.

AreYouReady is always ready to shill for HIllary and I doubt he has posted even as much as 10 comments on non Presidential Primary related topics.

GeorgeP and Bookgrl seem interested in party politics in general even if GeorgeP started out talking pretty much about Hillary most of the time.

Then we had the bizarre case of some Canadian who claimed to be an LA African American female resident and she used two aliases to prop up her support for Hillary. Then she denied it until we gave her proof.

HWC, I remember him doing some front page diaries. I dont have the time to say if he participates in more than a few non Presidential related topics or when he joined here.

I have seen a few like JGarcia who I think have supported Hillary and have been part of MYDD for a while now and discuss various topics.(sorry jgarcia if I am wrong on this)  So obviously, I got no problem with him and likeminded folk.